This post will compile all direct statements from witnesses C. Note: someone else was recently called C so I'm trying to avoid any confusion here. The witnesses in this post were mentioned in the Missing Maura Murray podcast, episode 26 at minute 22:58. There have been two reddit posts to date specifically discussing these witnesses (September 2017 and spring 2019 maybe April).
Narrative from MMM podcast 26, minute 22:58:
Myself, my friend and my cousin drove by Maura's car that night she went missing. I can tell you the car was on the wrong side of the road facing the wrong direction
I didn't see anyone in or near the car I didn't see any lights either. I can't recall the exact time but I was driving to the jail to leave money for a friend.
I don't think they keep a record like that this long but I had to sign in the money. I wasn't there that long as I do know it was past visiting hours so I would say I was there maybe 10 minutes. After I left I went back the same way I came and stopped at the Rite Aid maybe there 5 minutes and headed back to Lincoln.
On my way back I saw a cop car not 100% sure if it was a sedan or SUV, fire truck and an ambulance.
(filled out a police report but never heard back).
Added by reddit user Macparsons in November 2017:
This just in: One of the followers of the case told me that there was disagreement among those witnesses and "it was determined that the ambulance and fire trucks were NOT at the scene when they drove by. Only the police sedan. ( Witness C ) was mistaken. Her passenger said she also remembered seeing The Saturn's door open when they went by.
To add, "Witness C" signed in and never went it to meet their friend. They simply dropped the money off. ( Dunno if THAT was a good idea. ) There was some talk of The Saturn and if she wanted to file a police report for the sighting. They were talked out of it.
Comment by reddit user BreathingPermafrost (spring 2019):
I was the one that got "Witness C" to e-mail Tim and Lance, and have tried to get her to pop on here a time or two to answer some queries, but she's busy and doesn't follow the case online, so it never worked out. She didn't remember much about that night, and all she did was mentioned in the original e-mail or clarified later, as far as the ambulance/FD being there or not. Here are the actual Facebook messages that are the original source of that info (others in the community know her, but I don't believe they've contacted her since), spelling errors and all (name omitted):
So, finally got a hold of *PASSENGER*, she said she rendered only the cop car! She said it definitely wasn't a SUV
She said she can't recall a fire truck or ambulance
But said it was 12 years ago though so her memory may be a bit hazy
She said she also remembered the door open
It's important to note that this was all just her recollection years later (and her friend's afterward), as opposed to Karen McNamara who had phone records, copies of early e-mails to Helena, etc. to document her account, and had received a call back from Haverhill PD about what she saw, whereas Witness C reported her account to police as well and never got called back. I don't really think there's much of evidentiary value (I've been waiting to say that!) to Witness C's account really, as there's not a lot to concretely back it up, though I always found the mention of no SUV interesting after Cecil's claim he was in it, along with the recollection of the door being open, paralleling Susan Champy's claim.
One thing Witness C was always adamant about in our conversations was that she had no idea about times that she may have driven by (other than that the jail visit was after visiting hours), being so far removed from the incident. So I think it's probably a safe bet that you guys/girls that have backtracked her timeline more than likely have a better idea than she does about it.
question about route (spring 2019)
Response by BreathingPermafrost:
I asked her just now, she stated she DID take 112 the whole way, there and back. Though 116 is a more direct and quicker route, it is much less-traveled and darker, etc., so they weren't as comfortable taking that route.
I work with her, seeing her nearly every day, so if you have any other specific questions I can try to have them answered for you.
question about seeing other vehicles (spring 2019)
Response by BreathingPermafrost:
Just because she didn't see any, doesn't mean there weren't any though. Again, I personally don't recall her stating that no vehicles whatsoever passed by. According to her own account, she pretty much stopped watching the scene after seeing the bus show up/leave and seeing the driver move around the car, and she ended the call altogether after seeing a police vehicle there.
question: did she see a police car with lights heading to the scene after passing the Saturn?
Response by BreathingPermafrost (spring 2019)
They did not. It wasn't until passing by the second time, on the return trip, that they saw any sort of emergency response vehicle (being just a police car, according to the passenger) and it was already at the scene by that point.
discussion about open door June 2019
Comment by BreathingPermafrost (June 2019):
I can help with one right off the bat (as far as her recollection goes). Here is a message she sent me when her and I were discussing this a while back:
Everyone keeps saying that her car was crashed in the snow bank. That bothers me because it was in the middle of the dang road not near the snow banks.
earlier comment by BreathingPermafrost under prior account - this is 2016-2017
I'd hate to disappoint :)
This friend of mine (female, nickname away) drove by that night with a cousin and a friend on the way to Grafton Department of Corrections in Haverhill to visit another friend. They didn't really remember much in the way of details.
The friend of mine (Visitor Q?) recalled seeing police lights, a fire truck, and an ambulance on-scene when they drove back through on the return trip to Lincoln. After further discussing this with her after she sent in her e-mail to Tim and Lance, (and after she in turn discussed it further with her friend that was with her that night) she told me that the friend distinctly remembered only seeing police on-scene, and it was "definitely a car, not an SUV" when they drove by. Interestingly the friend also distinctly remembered the door to the Saturn being open at the time too.
It doesn't really add much, and is scant on detail, but any account of that night could be of importance.
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