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Nootka Lodge (self.MauraMurrayEvidence)
submitted 10 months ago by RangerNH
Can anyone point me in the direction of a source referring to a potential party held at the Nootka on the date of, or around the time Maura went missing? In addition, there is speculation (?) that McKay also stayed at that location. Is there evidence to support this claim? Thank you in advance 😊
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[–]Manitoggie 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago (12 children)
Woodsville/ Haverhill is so tiny but as someone new to the area,and from Massachusetts, It's overwhelming how vast the emptiness of the area is. It's almost endless with nooks and secret dirt roads. Mountain Lakes,the resort community is beautiful and hidden and eerie. And right behind this area. I actually work with the police officer that first responded-hes no longer a police officer. He's a difficult person...
[–]BonquosJoke -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (11 children)
Wow. You work with CS?
[–]Manitoggie 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago (10 children)
No, JW former chief
[–]BonquosJoke -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (9 children)
Whoa. He wasn’t on the scene that night. That’s a conspiracy put out there by John Smith. But that’s still interesting. I’m sure he’s never mentioned the case. If I was him I would sue John.
[–]Manitoggie 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago (8 children)
Oh i didn't know that. I will say that he isn't beloved by many people- and it was his own officers that arrested him for his DUI and got him removed from the force, so that alone says a lot
[–]BonquosJoke 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago* (7 children)
The guy is an ass hole but he had nothing to do with Maura’s death. He got blamed because he’s a jerk and was very indifferent to Maura’s family. For whatever reason that makes people in the online community believe he’s a killer. Some agencies have at least one ass hole drunk cop like this on their force. It’s not uncommon at all. Everyone with a bad reputation in the area she went missing has been accused of being involved at different times by different people.
[–]Manitoggie 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (6 children)
There's the rumour here that he paved his driveway right after this happened. In winter. Yeah. He's disliked. And as someone who has had difficult interactions with him at work, I get it
[–]BonquosJoke 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (1 child)
The driveway is very interesting.
[–]Manitoggie 5 points6 points7 points 10 months ago (0 children)
I don't know if it's true...but I've heard it from several people
[–]Angiemarie23 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (3 children)
He paved his driveway in winter ?
[–]Manitoggie 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago (1 child)
That's what a coworker told me
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 months ago (0 children)
What other rumors did you hear about the night Maura went missing that concerned JW? I've met JW also but didn't have to work with him...you have my sympathy
[–]BonquosGhost 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (0 children)
He was on the short list from the beginning of doing this type of work in Feb.....Common knowledge....This led to people questioning circumstantial evidence pointing towards his odd activities....Related? Either way, needs to be checked.....
[–]Manitoggie 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago (1 child)
I live close to the area, I always am absorbed by the sign for this lodge when I drive by, this is the first I've heard of any connection though.
[–]RangerNH[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children)
The new sign is fantastic, and a nice upgrade 😊 This is another one of many straws grasped at in forming the basis of theories in the online community. The rumor mill is strong, and I’ve always wondered where this one started.
[–]RangerNH[S] 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (0 children)
My bad. I did cross post on another sub after being alerted to my faux pas. Thank you for your response.
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[–]ThatAssholeCop 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (1 child)
FYI McKay was killed in ‘07. And yeah, the idea of anyone covering for him (especially for so long) is kind of preposterous.
[–]cedarswing 0 points1 point2 points 9 months ago (0 children)
What about NBM's daughter who was much younger then and rest of his original family plus SD who later married SH who was former Manchester LE bud and partner of early CCU detective RF? Maybe LE sees no sense in going further if no MM body and no one alive to prosecute? Maybe NH LE figures NBM and his family were victimized enough by LK, why go further? They did give SD E44 tag. Possible they're protecting blood family, you think? Or maybe the whole motel thing is not connected? I don't know, just a guess about why LE might cover for NBM early on and it then had to keep going. If he was even connected at all. Not saying he was, just if.
[–]HugeRaspberry 3 points4 points5 points 10 months ago (2 children)
This sub is more for evidence to be stored or preserved for all to see than to ask specific questions, if you are asking a question go to MauraMurray or MauraMurrayCase subs.
But to answer your specific questions:
1) there is no evidence of a UMass party that night or any time around there other than local rumors / gossip. Which doesn't mean it's not true, just nothing official or on the record or such an event occurring.
2) Mckay was rumored to have stayed at the Notoka for 3 or 4 nights around that time. This came from someone on FB Groups about a year ago who claimed to be an ex-worker at the hotel and she remembered him staying there and possibly being romantically involved with another LE (female). To my knowledge, no one has called the hotel to verify that, or if they did, the hotel did not have records of it or would share them. I believe that the "ex-worker" was discredited when she misstated her relationship to someone remotely involved with the case several times.
The McKay hotel stay rumor may also have stemmed from the fact that in the dispatch logs from that night, Mckay is stated to be "off at Motel" for a period of time. I believe that this has been determined to be a hotel in another city, not the Notoka.
[–]ThreatManagmentCo 2 points3 points4 points 8 months ago (0 children)
McKay was at a hotel that night but it wasnt Nookta. McKay was with a female cop, her last name is Brunelle and she was gay. Brunelle had committed suicide a few months after Maura went missing.
[–]finn141414 4 points5 points6 points 10 months ago (0 children)
I’m the one who alerted the op that the other subs would be a better place to post. That said, I would disagree with the statement that the individual on Facebook was discredited based on a misstatement of her relationship to CM. She subsequently clarified all of the facts. Sainthood is not required to have relevant information here. That said, none of it qualifies as hard evidence.
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