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Interview Part 1
News caption: "Fred Murray wants his daughter back and if he can't have that he wants answers..."
News caption: "Last seen one year ago..."
News caption: "She vanished eight years ago..."
News caption: "Its been ten long years..."
Fred Murray: "...and not a thing has changed. I started out on the first day I got there, asking for the FBI to come in and take a look at the case. I'm still asking for the FBI."
Erinn Larkin: Welcome back, I am Erinn. I recently had the opportunity or really the honor of speaking with Maura's father Fred Murray who was nice enough to spend an entire afternoon answering every single one of my three pages of questions. So, over the next few episodes I'll be playing back the recording of our conversation. I want to give a huge thank you to Mr. Murray for his time and for sharing his knowledge about the case. And I also want to thank Julie for facilitating everything.
Erinn Larkin: A lot of the discussion in this episode surrounds the six part Oxygen series that concluded in October. And Mr. Murray shares his thoughts and opinions on the show including some of the things he liked and disliked as well as some of the things he would like to clarify. As a disclaimer I just want to stress the point that criticism of specific elements of the show should not be misconstrued as an overall denunciation the show.
Erinn Larkin: I'm only speaking for myself here, but I think Mr. Murray should have the right to voice his opinion, free from any fear that his words can be used as ammunition to incite or provoke personal feuds or agendas that ultimately divert attention away from the case.
Erinn Larkin: Beyond that some of the other topics include the background of the A-frame house, what he knows about the party at Sara Alfieri's on the Saturday night prior and some of the suspicious individuals that have been brought to his attention over the years.
Erinn Larkin: I'll be back at the end of the episode with a few brief notes about some of the topics mentioned and Ethan will be back with me in a few episodes to help follow up with a more thorough review of some of the new information. So with that, here is part one of my conversation with Fred Murray.
Erinn Larkin: I think the Oxygen show cleared up a lot of the rumors that were out there for a long time, but I guess my first question is are there any misconceptions out there that still exist and that you'd like to see clarified?
Fred Murray: Right off the bat, all I've heard about from the cops they started on this early and stuck with it and it was their mantra: she went into the woods walked into the woods. I thought no she didn't walk into the woods because if she walked into the woods, there would be foot prints because there was two feet of snow.
Erinn Larkin: Plus the dog trail they did made it seem pretty unlikely that she walked into the woods.
Fred Murray: That's true. We didn't know that at the time, you know. But I was right there and talked to the guy Bogardus that was directing it. Right in the middle of it. Right at there at their their headquarters, uh where they were parked on the side of the road. There's a big clearing all of the searches start there. That was headquarters for the search and it right down where 112 just right between where the two uh 116's one South and one North uh branch off 112. There is a big clearing with a path at the end of it into the woods. They were all parked there. That's where I was parked because I was searching in the area myself. I didn't know they were there.
Fred Murray: And there's Bogardus. And I talked to him and he described what they were doing from way back way up to the height of land he called it. And that's the search they did 12 or 13 miles whatever it was. But uh they came up with nothing there. And uh I was really glad to see that last episode or whatever episode it was when Bogardus said there was no chance she went into the woods. Because that is what they were hanging their hat on.
Fred Murray: And the reason for it, it came coming back and back and back is the old squaw walk. The old squaw walk is the second half of the statement that I made. You never ever hear the first half. They were talking to me about "well she must have walked into the woods"..."It uh, it happens Fred and nobody understands why" and "its a combination of circum...blah blah blah."
Fred Murray: I said "She didn't walk in the woods. She would never do it. That's not the type her personality she has. Na not even gunna go look. There was no sense and she absolutely did not do that." And then they said "well she could of, she could of" uh "did she ever discuss it or something?" No she never discussed anything like that. Its just its a non factor" And uh he's "well if she did what would she do?" I said "she didn't" "where did she go?" "she didn't. She did not do that." I was getting irritated with them. I said "She never talked about suicide" uh "its never been a uh topic in conversation."